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Thread: HNBR material model vs technical datas

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    HNBR material model vs technical datas

    Hello everybody,

    Let me introduce myself, I am Stephane, French student in mechanical engineering school, especially for FEA subjects. I am currently in work placement in a company, performing some ANSYS FEA calculations. For one of this study, I have a rubber washer to define. It must be in HNBR material for some heating reason. It only works in compression.

    I have some technical datas from providers, very often they are :
    - Hardness (Shore A)
    - Tensile strenght
    - Ultimate elongation
    - Modulus 100% (compression set)

    I thinked to modelize this material by using "classical" elastomer model such Neo-Hookean or simplier Blatz-Ko (considering material is incompressive)

    My questions are :
    - What about the choice of this model ? May I consider Mooney-Rivlin instead of the one I chose ?
    - Is my technical datas enough to define this material model ? In fact, is there a relation between Hardness, Tensile Strenght, Ultimate elongation, compression set and Bulk, shear or Young modulus ? Since providers never give these values.

    I hope someone will be able to answer, don't hesitate to ask if something is not clear in my demand.

    (sorry for my English, I think it is far away from perfection)

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    If you do not need very accurate FE predictions then a simple neo-hookean material model is fine. You can estimate the two neo-hookean material parameters (shear and bulk modulus) from the data that you mentioned, but it would be more accurate to experimentally test the material to find out the real properties.

    -Jorgen
    Jorgen Bergstrom, Ph.D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen View Post
    If you do not need very accurate FE predictions then a simple neo-hookean material model is fine. You can estimate the two neo-hookean material parameters (shear and bulk modulus) from the data that you mentioned, but it would be more accurate to experimentally test the material to find out the real properties.

    -Jorgen
    Thank you for your answer.

    For the moment I don't need very accurate model, I just need to have a correct estimation of load to apply to obtain some displacement.

    Can you precise me how to obtain shear and bulk modulus with the data I have ? I did not manage to find any relationship... I have just just find relationships with shear / bulk / young / poisson ratio, but no one with Tensile strenght, elongation or Hardness...

    Thank you one more time for your kind help.

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    You can assume that the bulk modulus is about 500 times higher than the shear modulus.

    There are relationships between hardness and modulus, see for example the following thread.

    -Jorgen
    Jorgen Bergstrom, Ph.D.
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